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an hopefuy it sowns the alarm and it shows people we have to reevaluate the priorities with college athletics and how they fit into academics. >> b.j., speaking of influence and power, this sparked a bit of a conversation. let's talk money. texas coach mac brown $5 million a year. alabama's nick saban more than $4 million a year, ohio state hires new head koecoach urban meyer, $4 million a year, the most recent hire amid their own scandal last summer with their head football coach, right? all of this with the background of what's happening at syracuse and penn state. are you surprised by the numbers or not at all? >> you know, given the way college athletics has trended upward in the last several years, in the last decade or so, i'm not at all surprised. but when you look at those numbers and you think, not only are these coaches the highest paid individuals in their universities -- and they're very are prestigious institutions in which a lot of research,
important research, the cure for cancer, cure for many diseases, a lot of important things are being studied and researched there -- they're the highest paid employees in their own states, much more than the governor, any law enforcement official. it's really staggering had wh ih you look at the pure amount of money these coaches are making. >> what are the dangers of that kind of power? >> well, i think -- you know, penn state says it all. the fact that, you know, the institution was really made into what it is today because of football and because joe paterno built that university around football. now, joe paterno he did a lot of good, don't get me wrong, at penn state. but the fact that when some of his players got into trouble, be it with the law or academically, he ultimately had the power to say, look, leave them alone, they're just kids. that's too much power no matter who you are.
>> b.j. schecter, si.com, thank you sir. >> thank you. now this. hour two, i'm brooke baldwin. here are a couple of stories we're looking at. the iraq war formally declared over. new developments about the american drone lost in iran. and a fantastic light show soon for many of you. time to play reporter rue lit. dan loath lothian at the white house, the two declared the end of the iraq war? >> reporter: you did hear that, a war that lasted almost nine years, the president and prime minister pointion out there are big challenges that remain. there are concerns over whether or not iraq can handle its own security, whether or not it can have a stable government, and how it will be able to deal with influences from neighbori ining countries like iran. so those are some key issues
that will no doubt draw the attention and continue to keep the attention of this administration. i should also point out on this day both of the leaders using this phase to remember all of those who lost their lives in the war, laying a wreath over at arlington national scemetery where some of the troops are buried. >> dan, what about support? what kind of support to iraq did president obama promise, be it trade, military, et cetera? >> yes, certainly all of those. we heard the president atalk about that, in fact the u.s. planning to sell f-16s to iraq to replace some of their fighter jet that's were destroyed during the war. the president talked about lifting some of the trade restrictions to allow more exports, also assisting in the areas of health care and agriculture. so the u.s. will still be playing an active role inside iraq, although it will not be a military footprint. >> dan lothian at the white house, appreciate it.
thank you. next on reporter roulette, president obama making a huge revelation also about that missing american drone. for that, let's go to the state department, elise labbot. we're hearing the u.s. has in fact reached out to iran abouted said drone, yes? >> that's right. secretary clinton just said moments ago the u.s. has offered a formal request to iran to send back that drone that was basically reconnaissance drone according to u.s. officials over the border with afghanistan. iran has basically said, forget about it. they've called the swiss a. ambassador to tehran who looks out for the u.s. in iran to complain about the drone and the deputy commander of the iranian forced said, look, nobody likes spy drones in its territory and we certainly don't give them back. no nation would do that. so it doesn't look like president obama is going to get that drone back for an early holiday present. and secretary clinton just meeting with foreign secretary of the uk william haig, it looks like there's going to be a lot
of pressure on iran over the coming years. so this is just another dot point as they like to say, connecting the dots to put pressure on iran. >> knowing they have communicated trying to get that thing back. alyse laboratorelise labbot, th much. could be the best light show of the year, we're talking about the big shower tomorrow night. >> correct, all the way into very early even thursday. this will have a long peak, a long tail. this has been getting better, the gemini meteor shower. when it started in the 1800s, only about 40 meteors an hour, now 120 an hour. the skies are dark because there's not as much humidity in the air. this is where it came from, off of this not aft roid, not comet kind of hybrid something, 3200 phaethon. the earth is going to fly through the back through that dust. we'll see all of these meteors coming up. >> i love learning terms like
this. phaethon. use it in a sentence, please? what's the threat? >> no threat. it could hit a satellite, but i could also be hit by a car. >> you be careful,ed chad myers. thank you very much. that's reporter roulette for this monday. still ahead, a republican changes his mind on a tough immigration law. a woman sees this on facebook, quote, someone call 911 three dead bodies. >> i kind of freaked out when i seen it. i was wondering if this is true or fake. >> after a man changed his status update on facebook, a horrific discovery. newt gingrich sounds like a broken record about the listen
if it is interesting and happening right now, you're about to see it. rapid fire. beginning with the markets, let's take a quick look at the numbers on the big board. i can tell you the dow still down over the 200 mark, 218 points as we're just 50 minutes away from the closing bell. as we watch the numbers, a lot of the numbers are down because of the growing doubts over the resolution of europe's debt crisis. also today, sales warnings from chip maker intel. occupy wall street
protestors are trying to occupy wist coast ports. they have planned marches all the way from san diego up toward ain anchorage, alaska. this is portland, oregon, where gates have been closed at two of the four terminals there. and if i can continue on here -- can i have my scripts, please? i'm sighing blankness. this was the prison break in yemen earlier this morning. just about 15 prisoners breaking out of a prison in a tunnel, broke out of a tunnel reportedly digging a 20-foot tunnel, the president is in aden which has been under threat since may. lowe's facing backlash today after pulling its ads from the show "all-american muslim," this new reality tv show on tlc, following the lives of five families all in dearborn, michigan. lowe's decided to pull its advertising after this
conservative florida family association complained about the show calling it propaganda. just last hour i talked to the director of that group. >> and i beg anybody to find an imam in any mosque in this country that believes that sharia should not apply to the people in america. and for this program to show these people, which i wish they were all like this, i would be doing handstands if all the imams in this country took an anti-sharia, anti-islamic code proposition. >> for its part in the story, big box home improvement store lowe's said it did not pull the ads based on complaints from one group. it never meant to alienate anyone. a private funeral is being held for a 7-year-old girl who was raped and brutally murdered. she was snatched from her playground area at her own apartment complex in canton, georgia. a 20-year-old maintenance man is charged with killing her.
a funeral was held saturday in suburban atlanta. her body has now been flown to puerto rico for a private family funeral. she will be buried there tomorrow. breaking today -- arizona's tough immigration law going to the nation's highest court. the u.s. supreme court will decide whether the state can enforce it as the obama administration is fighting it. a ruling expected in june. and secret santas stepping up their game this year. some of these anonymous santas are paying off -- going into stores and plunking down money, paying off people's layaways at kmart stores in michigan and california. last monday someone donated 500 bucks for three different layaways. the very next day 14 layaways were paid off with a $2,000 gift from a secret santa. that's what really the holidays are all about. now this. >> the clock is ticking. we're in the final minutes now. troops and sailors are in position ready for whatever the
in depth this it week on cnn we are all about iraq, now that we're in the home stretch here of the u.s. military presence. 6,000 u.s. troops there on four bases, that is quite the contrast to the nearly 200,000 troops on more than 500 bases just a couple of years ago. president obama set a date, december 31, for nearly every american service member to be out of the country, and that
appears to be, that time line, on track. cnn's tyra phillips made four different trips to iraq over the course of that war. she talked to iraqis, traveled with troops. now she reports on the men and women who are home, combat veterans of america's most recent war. >> our mission objectives, hit the target. >> seven aircraft did drop bombs over iraq. >> reporter: eight years ago i was there when the iraq war began. >> in the campaign being called shock and awe. >> reporter: from the air, land, and sea. >> there are five weapon stations on this special operations craft. >> reporter: i met some of the bravest men and women i've ever known, bravery that came at a physical and mental price. in one word, how would you describe the war in iraq? >> sacrifice. >> bittersweet.
>> mistake. >> reporter: these are veterans of operation iraqi freedom from the army, air force, marines. all impacted in some way by this war. was the war worth it to you? >> as an infantryman i was on the ground a lot. i talked to a lot of families, individuals in the iraqi populous. >> reporter: josh aguilar was on the ground when the invasion are beg began, his first of three deployments. >> i feel that, as long as i gave somebody else the opportunity to have the same democracies, the same freedoms, hopes and dreams we can have every day, then maybe some of those things that i did and some of the sacrifices my friends made were worth a little bit of something. >> reporter: aguilar retired six months ago and starts school in january. sarah, how about you? was it worth it? >> i think i'm on the fence. i know there have been a lot of iraqi casualties. how many more would there have been if we weren't there? >> reporter: sarah is now a
paralegal in the air force reserve and works at a private security company. you were a teenager building bombs. how do you process that? >> you build those bombs. at the don't come back. you know someone's dead. it's hard to be happy about that. but at the same time i was happy it wasn't me. >> how did it change you? >> i think at the time you just kind of become cold and callous to it. it's self-preservation. >> you went from being a u.s. marine to studying peace and conflict at uc berkeley. talk about a switch. >> i have a hard time understanding why we went there in the first place, going in under false pretenses of weapons of mass destruction. wanted to gain a better understanding of what i experienced, getting out of the military took me at least a year or two of trying to negotiate being a civilian again. >> negotiate being a civilian. what do you mean by that? >> i was very definitely ready to end my five-year enlistment, but when i got out i didn't
anticipate the feeling of loss, especially in terms of the really strong ties and bonds between me and guys that i served with. >> i struggled with seeing my friends contemplate suicide. >> reporter: jesse sang was an army sergeant in iraq, an assistant to a brigade commander. now, with a degree in sociology, she's dedicating her life to saving fellow vets. >> seeing them deal with alcohol abuse, drug abuse, homelessness, that was the most difficult thing for me to see. i witnessed them save someone's life in iraq and they can't save their own anymore? it hurt me. >> reporter: rams rahir was an army specialist, honorably discharged just five months ago. he's now living in a transitional housing facility. you also struggled quite a bit since you came back. you're two months sober. that's positive. why did you turn to alcohol? >> i had to see good, patriotic
americans that were fathers, that were good parents, good sons, good daughters make the ultimate sacrifice and that played a heavy emotional toll on myself. >> reporter: ramsey received two purple hearts in less than a year. >> there was small arms contact, mortar attacks, rpg attacks, indirect fire on bases. i mean, you're constantly dealing with a barrage of ammunitions. some of those events still haunt me. >> do you feel safe now? >> now that i'm sober, yes. >> the war in iraq, how did it impact your marriages, your families? >> you know how they say the first year of marriage is tough? well, try deploying three months after you get married. you learn a lot about yourself, about your marriage, about your spouse. we had a lot of fights. but we talked it out and i can definitely say that our marriage is much stronger. >> josh, you've got a bit of a different story. >> a little bit. i was actually married six months before i deployed the first time to iraq. i very specifically writing my
wife a letter saying, things are different for me, and i can feel them. i can tell. so when i came home, on top of me dealing with my own issues and on top of her becoming pregnant with our first child, is it caused a lot of big gaps in our relationship. by the time i deployed again, it was over. as i was walking out the door, i already knew this is the last time we're going to share a home together. >> our troops are coming home. what's your advice? >> my advice is just listen to the command. they do a very good job of giving mandatory briefings. i deal with subjects such as suicide, domestic abuse, alcohol abuse, and don't diminish the good work that you did. >> you have to be open. you have to communicate. you have to be willing to talk about what you're feeling. otherwise, you're just going to ball it up and be angry. >> and realistically, people are not necessarily meant to kill other people and they're going to have a reaction to that. >> fighting those emotions and
fighting those problems on your own isn't going to help, you know. you fight as a team. you need help as a team. >> 18 veterans succeed in committing suicide a day and 32 veterans attempt every day. these are are insane statistics and it's real. i always think about everyone that we've lost in iraq and i live my life to fulfill what they could have done in the future but they can't now. >> five voices of survival and sacrifice, soon to be joined by the nearly 40,000 troops headed home, leaving iraq for good. >> kyra phillips, had whwhat a . i just respect you and i respect that the four times you went, the fact that it speaks volumes that you kept up with these people, that they were willing to sit back down with you. so many questions on that. i do want to ask you -- >> pretty amazing individuals. i saw a lot of very young kids,
and i'm talking teenagers, early 20s. i mean, i know -- they grew up really fast. >> you watched them grow up. >> absolutely. >> you did. you were also -- one of your trips over there, you got the exclusive inside saddam hussein's cell? >> yes. this was interesting. from the start of the war and spending so many months there and going back a number of times, one of the generals i told him i really want to get inside saddam's cell. i know there was a diary he wrote poetry. >> i imagine that wasn't easy getting in there. >> no, it wasn't. and let me tell you it was fascinating from a number of perspectives. nobody knew this until we broke the story. saddam was actually -- he was being held as a prisoner in the one palace he used to reign in in. so the palace he committed so many crimes and lived this luxurious life, he was locked away a prisoner with no rights. every day he sat in a garden. he tried to plant a garden and everything died. he would write in this diary
every day. some of it just crazy manifesto language. he would write poetry. here is a little clip. do you want to hear a bit of this? >> yes, please. saddam hussein poetry. >> the nights are darker after the sunset, but the smoke and burning overwhelms the city. you'll feel suffocated under its skies. my days are nights and numbered. no stars, no moon, but lots of screams. it's pretty wild. >> thanks for sharing se ining kyra. coming up next, a republican in alabama having some second thoughts about his state's tough immigration law, partly because of what happened to honda and mercedes workers in his own state. alabama majority whip is standing by. he's going to tell me what has chaked his mind. don't miss this.
in alabama you've got supporters of the state's new illegal immigration law expressing some buyers remorse. it recently are came to a head after police arrested a german who ended up being a mercedes-benz executive. a japanese man was detained, he works for honda, another big employer. that prompted a paper in missouri to invite foreign carmakers to relocate there. take lay look at the quote, we
are the show me state, not the show me your papers state, st. louis post dispatch. joining me, state senator gerald dial, senator dial, thank you for coming on. i know you supported this law, parts of which took effect in december. it's considered now, i've talked to your governor, he agrees, the nation's toughest. are you, sir, having second thoughts? >> certainly we are. we're also looking at making some changes in this law. we probably overreached. i think most people in alabama agree that we overreached on this it law. and we've he met with our attorney general to look at changes that need to be made to this law. that's the good thing about the legislature, the bill we passed last year we can start in this legislative session and make some changes. >> we'll talk about some of that overreaching and potential changes in a minute. in terms of i guess the image, are you worried at all that your state is being branded as being hostile to overseas businesses, some surrounding states, ie,
missouri, clearly eager to push that idea? >> well, i certainly am. you know, recruiting industry is one of the most competitive things in america. it's worse than recruiting quarterbacks for high school or college football teams. we're certainly concerned about this. we've worked diligently in this state for 40 years to overcome some of the images we've had, and to see it certainly regress back to those images that are certainly not alabama, that don't portray the true and real alabama, certainly bothers all of us. we're committed to making some changes so we can overcome those images. >> just so i'm clear, when you say make changes, we're not talking repeal the law. you're making tweaks, is that correct? >> well, we're talking about some tweaks but major tweaks that we think will make this law more amenable to people of this state. what we did, we overreached and we not only in trying to make sure we didn't have illegal
immigrants in this state, we also penalized our own citizens who have lived here all their lives, the hardship we placed on them, also hardships we tried to place on illegal immigrants. this was not the intention of this bill. it was not my intention. and i made a mistake in voting for this bill as it is today, and i'm a person that will admit i made a mistake and i'm committed to trying to correct those mistakes. we're working on those as we speak. >> as you admit this mistake, how threaten do you craft legislation that would ensure your police officers don't arrest more foreign executives whose firms provide jobs to the people of your state? >> well, you know, that was a unique case and certainly one that probably could have been handled with a lot more compassion. but, you know, when with i go to europe i have to have my passport to even check in a hotel. so the individual should have certainly had identificati had with him. i don't know all the details. he could have been a little more
compassionate, say, send somebody to the room and get your passport and identify yourself. we've put our law enforcement people in an awkward position of trying to enforce a law that's not really that clear. i've met with the attorney general of this state, luther strange, he's come forward with suggestions in changing the bill. some of theme we're going to introduce in the session. >> perhaps the toughest immigration law in the land may no longer be that way, if you have a little are something to do with it. we'll stay on this, alabama state senator gerald dial. appreciate it. thank you very much. >> thank you very much. still ahead, newt gingrich and one of his fellow presidential candidates minutes away from facing off in this lincoln/douglas debate. one of the republicans has a lot riding on this. we've got a preview. plus, you're about to meet a guy who's changing the future of technology and how we listen to music. his invention may actually show
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all? >> you know, it could. if there's a moment during this debate, brooke, where huntsman really draws blood from newt gingrich, that is something that you can just talk to mitt romney about, it's not easy to do, then perhaps it could serve huntsman well. he is banking his whole campaign on new hampshire, as you know, brooke. he's not campaigning in iowa. he's basically putting iowa to the side altogether and is staking his entire campaign on winning the new hampshire primary. but really, you know, this is going to be interesting to watch newt gingrich. earlier today it was not so much a battle between newt gingrich and jon huntsman. it was a battle between newt gingrich and mitt romney. it started this morning on fox news. he said gingrich should give back the money that he made advising freddie mac the housing giant earlier this decade, earlier last decade, i should say, and gingrich with very little time to spare retorted to
reporters at an event here in new hampshire that perhaps mitt romney should give back the money he made downsizing companies when he was in charge of the private investment firm bain capital. there's been a back-and-forth all day between romney and gingrich, sort of overshadowing this debate somewhat. >> during the debate we'll be watching the back-and-forth between huntsman and gingrich. i know gingrich has been calling for this lincoln/douglas style debate. why is that? >> reporter: you know, i think it's mainly because newt gingrich -- i think when we look back at this campaign, brooke, the hallmark of this campaign, the tushing poi inturning point the debates. for newt gingrich, almost are each and every debate he has wowed conservative audiences. they like the fact he goes after the media, he says hey, let's not beat up on each other, let's focus on president obama. these debates have served newt gingrich well. it revived his campaign.
gingrich wants to do these every chance he gets. he even challenged romney to one. romney said no thanks. gingrich says if he gets the nomination he'll challenge president obama to lincoln/douglas debates. he likes to say it at every campaign stop, he says if president obama disagrees, gingrich will follow him around the country saying, why won't he debate me? for newt gingrich, this had is his bread and butter. >> you'll be watching. jim acosta, thank you so much in new hampshire. still ahead, a grandmother slapped in cuffs after her son-in-law records this wild incident all on his iphone. we've got the video for you. plus, a horrific discovery minutes after this man changes his status update on facebook, an update that one woman saw in realtime. sunny hostin is on the case for us next.
incident all on his iphone. tyler clementi, the name is synonymous with cyberbullying. he is the rutgers student who jumped off the george washington bridge some 15 months ago. he killed himself after his roommate allegedly used a webcam to stream video of clementi in a sexual encounter with another man. on friday, that roommate here turned down a plea deal that would have kept him from going sto jail on hate crime charges.
tonight in an exclusive prime-time interview, tyler clementi's parents talk about nir loss. >> for a long time, i didn't believe it. i didn't think that he had done that. i thought maybe he was kidnapped or he had run away, you know. all of those things. and when they found his body, then i was forced to accept the fact. >> now that some time has passed, i'm sure you must be going over in your mind, over and over again, why. >> i have gone over it many, many times in my head. and i really cannot come up with -- i guess because there is no good reason for what tyler did. it was something he did do and it's something that cannot be changed. there is no good reason. >> and we truly don't know why. we don't know what the why is. >> and we hope you watch that entire interview. it's an exclusive prime-time interview with tyler clementi's parents ac 3608:00 eastern. a bitter custody battle ends
with a florida grandmother in jail and her son-in-law treated at the hospital lucky to be alive. the man had his cell phone running when he went to his mother-in-law's house to pick up his son for court-ordered visitation. just a warning, what he captured on his camera is tough to listen to. take a look. >> i can't believe you did that! what, are you crazy? >> get the [ bleep ] off me! >> you shot me, you [ bleep ]! >> get off me! >> i can't believe you shot me. >> get off me! >> you shot me! >> sunny hostin, i mean, you hear this man, you hear the gunshots, you hear him screaming "you shot me." have you ever seen anything like this? >> i've never seen anything like this captured on a video camera. it's really remarkable that he had the foresight to think that
perhaps something was going to happen to him and he turned on the video camera. that will be state's exhibit number 1 in the trial against her. >> apparently he had this feeling that something was up so he turned on that cell phone. i'm sure he's going to be grateful he did. authorities say this mother-in-law lied to the 911 dispatcher. i want to play part of the call, between cheryl hepner and the dispatcher. >> 911. what's your emergency? >> 911, somebody just shot at me. >> what's your address? do you know this person? >> yes. >> stay on the phone with me. >> he just shot at me. >> he shot at you or shot you, ma'am? >> i'm hurt. i'm not shot, but he said i shot at him. he shot at me. >> she's flipping the script in the call saying, my son-in-law shot at me, but clearly from the video that her son-in-law shot, she's not telling the truth. that can't help her. >> that's right. >> that can't help her case down the road.
>> no, it didn't. it's remarkable. she's been charged with attempted murder. i wonder if she'll be charged with lying on a 911 call. it's pretty unbelievable that without this videotape certainly her version of events may have been the version of events that people may have given credit to. again, it's sort of the wonders of our new social media, picture taking, video capabilities, you can always, always use this type of thing as evidence. so i think it's a word to the wise for most people. big brother is watching. you can always be found to be on camera are or videotape. >> we know there was a whole custody battle playing out as a backdrop of this. what impact does this have on that? >> well, my understanding, brooke, is that he was there to pick up had his 3-year-old son and that the 3-year-old may have seen or at least heard some of this. so the legal standard is what is in the best interests of the child. it certainly isn't in the best interests in the child for his
grandmother to shoot his father. so i would imagine that the court is going to look at this and grandma will not have visitation anymore. i wonder if the mother is going to have any visitation. certainly this will change the dynamics in the custody battle. >> case number two, sunny hostin, this woman is in washington state, on her computer, she's on facebook. she spots this freshly posted status update from a man she's obviously friends with. here was the status update. someone call 911. three dead bodies, gives this address, says i've killed ryan, erin and myself. people were warned not to [ expletive ] play me and ruin me. they didn't listen. sorry about your luck. so this woman, who's on facebook in washington state, she pick up the phone, she calls police in ft. wayne, indiana. they go to that address, find three bodies, all shot, all killed in this apparent double murder/suicide. the facebook post is signed to 2:46 p.m. all three pronounced dead 32 minutes later.
did this woman in washington state do everything right here? >> she did. i mean, she basically p help solved the crime. it's really remarkable, and i've been speaking to a lot of my law enforcement sources recently and they're saying that facebook, twitter, these social media sites are becoming the new face of law enforce the and are being used as investigative tools. so there's no question she did the right thing, but this -- i feel this is sort of 21st century investigation. this is what people are using to crack cases. >> it's one thing pell aople ar using to crack cases. but there has to be a fine line. obviously faceboofacebook/twitt cannot be the go-to for crime solvers. >> it is becoming the go-to. this is how people communicate with each other right now. and, again, it's really fascinating, but law enforcement officers are telling me this is one of the first places that they look when they're investigating crimes. >> amazing.
tiles have changed, sunny hostin. thank you so much. next, speaking of video, have you seen this? a brawl at a college basketball game. and just a short time ago one. players involved in the fight took to the stage and choked up. we'll play it for you next. ertas where straining should be avoided, colace softens the stool for effective relief from occasional constipation. go to colacecapsules.com for savings. at liberty mutual, we know how much you count on your car and how much the people in your life count on you. that's why we offer accident forgiveness, man: good job. where your price won't increase due to your first accident. we also offer a hassle-free lifetime repair guarantee, where the repairs made on your car are guaranteed for life or they're on us. these are just two of the valuable features
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cincinnati and xavier basketball teams and some players could face criminal charges here. it was a horrific sight. just a couple seconds left in the game. several days of trash talking between these rivals erupted in this brawl. you see unfold be right on the hardwood. both schools have suspended eight players. several for up to six games. but the situation worsened as xavier players spoke out, then had to come back yesterday, and apologize. watch. >> that's what you want to stay way from, xavier and cincinnati. we got disrespaektd little bit before the game. guys calling us out. we are a tougher team. we are growth men. we are not thugs, we are tough guys and we zipped them up. >> we will all get degrees. we are incredible young men. so i apologize for what took place yesterday. >> well, about an hour ago, it
was cincinnati's turn to issue apologies. look at this. one of the players involved in the fight covering his face. obviously got cloaked up as his teammates told reporters the fight does not reflect who they are. the coach, there, also apologetic. >> i can tell you how i feel to our university. our alumni. our fans. everybody involved that we let down. we're sorry. >> roots of this rivalry run deep. the two schools less than five miles apart. some of the players have known each other since they were kids. "the situation room" a couple minutes away. wolf, i just checked your blog. you say you are worried about iraq. why? >> very worried about iraq. i know the president and prime minister of iraq put together an upbeat assess many but there are so many potential danger signs down the road. well go in-depth on what is going on. i was in kuwait in march 2003
when u.s. troops went in and i wrote on my blog today. i said if somebody said to me then with those tens of thousands of american troops going into iraq, they would stay, the u.s. would have sizeable numbers of troops through the end of 2011 at that time, i would have thought they were crazy. but i'm still very worried about what is going on. i'm worried about the pressures on their government from some of the shiite supporters who are closely aligned with iran as to what they are doing and there is some really brutal signals out there. potentially what is going on. even while u.s. troops are out, 16,000 americans are staying. thousands of american diplomats. thousands of american diplomatic support and a lot of contractors who are there to protect them. but a lot of them will be sitting ducks. if some of these groups get carried away. i suspect they'll. this is, by in means, over despite the optimism expressed by president obama and prime minister malachi today. i hope i'm wrong.
i hope things continue to move in the right direction but i'm worried about what is going on. >> thank you, sir. appreciate it. finally, m n my last couple minutes with you, there is a lincoln douglas style debate. gingrich wants to challenge obama if a spefb verbal battle. how exactly does this work? joe johns explains. voila, hello, sir. >> hello. >> good to see you. >> glad to be here. >> we'll talk in a minute. hello, how can i deliver world-class service for you today ? we gave people right off the street a script and had them read it.
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we are mere minutes away from a one on one debate between republican presidential candidate newt gingrich and john hunts hannah hunts jon huntsman. it will be a lincoln douglas style debate. >> seven lincoln douglas style three-hour debates. seven wsh three-hour debates in the lincoln douglas tradition. >> seven three-hour debates in the lincoln douglas tradition after time keeper but no moderate. >> so i think he's challenging the president to seven three-hour debates. >> in the lincoln douglas tile. >> yes. so we don't know if that will happen with the president. we know it is happening, not exactly like that, but sort of lincoln douglas stale debates happening with jon huntsman. what should we expect some. >> well, the huntsman/gingrich
thing wib don't know how long it'll go, but it is back and forth, back and forth. it sounds like it'll be substantive. st. ann's college in new hampshire. it will talk about national security. it is going to talk about foreign policy. and these are two policy wonks. you would expect them to mix it up and really get into the policy ideas and the values behind the policy that they are supporting. that's the idea, at least. >> so perhaps the format of that debate will help them, i guess, express their views that way. but when you look at the roots, right, 1858, you know, right for senatorship of illinois -- >> abraham lincoln, steven douglas. >> but it wasn't five minutes and five minutes? n >> no. if they do a real
lincoln-douglas style debate, it isn't going to be real entertaining. they will have an hour then rebuttal of 90 minutes, then the first person comes back. >> with like half an hour. >> right. so that's the way it works. and it sounds like it's three really long speeches. and you know, basically, abraham lincoln, what he did was he took all of these debates, that they did in that style, seven, i think, three-hour debates, apparently. he wrote them up in a book and served him when he was running for president of the united states. people read them and said, o oh, wow, this is interesting stuff. they are talking about slavery. but what they are talking about now, if they ended up doing it, it would be boring, even i think between the former president of the united states and speaker of the house. >> you don't think people would want to listen to them talk for -- >> i don't think so. i'm a policy wonk too, but three hours. >> three hours is a really long time. >> yeah, to do anything. >> we will see how